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Will Avila
post Jul 30 2009, 08:22 AM
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Well, It looks like my Dolphins are back on the right track after going 1-15 a couple of years ago..
Im referring to the cooling fins on the cylinders...
Below is a picture of how they are looking.... Im going to replace the stock shifter linkage with a chrome one soon, so that will give the area a cleaner look but the cylinder fins are looking crappy... The picture doesnt capture how bad they look. At least to me... they look crappy...

What can I use to clean them without making them worse....?

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post Jul 30 2009, 08:23 AM
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post Jul 30 2009, 08:27 AM
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http://www.pigspit.com/

Pig Spit Original for the black crinkle stuff.

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post Jul 30 2009, 08:32 AM
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I learned this from a used motorcycle salesman. SC Johnson Scrubbing Bubbles. Spray the motor, wait about 10 minutes, rinse it off. If it's really bad, do it twice.
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post Jul 30 2009, 08:36 AM
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QUOTE(esteban_cee @ Jul 30 2009, 08:32 AM) *
I learned this from a used motorcycle salesman.


That sounds like a guy I would trust . . . (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)
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QUOTE(Spurrs @ Jul 30 2009, 08:27 AM) *
http://www.pigspit.com/

Pig Spit Original for the black crinkle stuff.


Thanks Rick. Reminds me, I gotta stock up on my Pig spit apparel. (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/sheepjumprope.gif)
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post Jul 30 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(Spurrs @ Jul 30 2009, 09:36 AM) *
That sounds like a guy I would trust . . . (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)


(IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif) yea i thought about that too....!


Thanks Guys.. I know about Pigspit.
Do you think it will remove the stains from the aluminum part of the fins.?
Parts of the aluminum look yellowish as if superficial corrission/rust was developing..
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:00 AM
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I doubt it, but don't know for sure.
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(Spurrs @ Jul 30 2009, 08:36 AM) *
That sounds like a guy I would trust . . . (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)


This from a guy who lets somebody else shave his ass. HA!




















BTW, the scrubbing bubbles really do work. (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/yes.gif)
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:12 AM
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I'll try the Pink Bubbles first ...

EC, Will it remove Wax from the paint..?
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM
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Try the bubbles but I would use S100 to clean the fins and pigspit a couple of times, Use when engine is cold.let it dry and then do it again.

From the look of the fins it seems like salt air corrosion..kind of hard to remove that but it should look better after you clean them
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(Will Avila @ Jul 30 2009, 09:12 AM) *
I'll try the Pink Bubbles first ...

EC, Will it remove Wax from the paint..?


It might. I just stay close when I'm spraying. It's not really that hard to keep if off the paint.
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post Jul 30 2009, 09:29 AM
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The pix above was from my camera phone... its a little blurry too..

I take a better picture with a real camera before and after and re post...
thanks guys..
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For rust on metal, and even cloth, you can use "Iron Out": http://www.summitbrands.com/brands/IronOut.aspx

This is a powder and must be mixed with water to use on a metal surface. It doesn't actually etch or re-stain the surface, it bonds with the ferris iron molecule (rust) and rinses off. Ernie may be familiar with the product, as it is often used to take iron out of older resin beds in water softeners. People with lots of iron in there water also use it with a load of whites to get the yellow out of their clothes.

A pre-mixed version is available called "Rust Out" which is the same, but in a spray bottle. Works on LOTS of stuff: http://www.summitbrands.com/brands/RustOut.aspx

This stuff REALLY works - trust me, I never sold used bikes, but ride them weekly!
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thanks Rickster....
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post Jul 30 2009, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(esteban_cee @ Jul 30 2009, 09:32 AM) *
I learned this from a used motorcycle salesman. SC Johnson Scrubbing Bubbles. Spray the motor, wait about 10 minutes, rinse it off. If it's really bad, do it twice.


I swear to God you're gonna laugh at me but I thought you were referring to Johnson's Mr Bubbles!
I went durng lunch to a local pharmacy and bougt a bottle of the Original Mr Bubbles! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

Heck, Im still gonna use it ! My Bike will also be smelling like Bubble Gum! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)
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QUOTE(Will Avila @ Jul 30 2009, 01:20 PM) *
I swear to God you're gonna laugh at me but I thought you were referring to Johnson's Mr Bubbles!
I went durng lunch to a local pharmacy and bougt a bottle of the Original Mr Bubbles! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/banghead.gif)

Heck, Im still gonna use it ! My Bike will also be smelling like Bubble Gum! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif)


(IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)

No. This is what I'm talking about.

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Way to tell'em EC! I've used Scrubbing Bubbles a few times and it works great. Tom
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QUOTE(Sick_Puppy @ Jul 30 2009, 04:51 PM) *
Way to tell'em EC! I've used Scrubbing Bubbles a few times and it works great. Tom


See there. A testimonial from a man who gets plenty of use out of his motorcycle. (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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The paint on the edges of my fins was starting to "chip/flake" I ended up using BBQ grill paint (Hi Temp) and sanding the edges back to silver. I did this when I replaced the carb/petcock, so I had the tank off for more working room. Turned out great.

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QUOTE(92Flstf @ Jul 30 2009, 07:29 PM) *
The paint on the edges of my fins was starting to "chip/flake" I ended up using BBQ grill paint (Hi Temp) and sanding the edges back to silver. I did this when I replaced the carb/petcock, so I had the tank off for more working room. Turned out great.



So you just sprayed the cylinder fins with Hi-Heat paint and then sanded the edges down to the metal?
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Yep, I think I did some before and after pics here. I couldn't seem to find it though. Shoulda been spring/summer '07. I tried to rebuild my carb right after we moved back here and it didn't work. I got a carb from Max and had to replace the petcock, and the old "While I was there" ensued.
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used the scrubbing bubble... the stuff cleans but apparently what the fins had was discolored black paint...
I did what 92FLSTF DID AND IT LOOKS 100% BETTER NOW....

THE PICTURES BELOW DONT REALLY CAPTURE THE DIFFERENCE BUT IT THERE REALLY IS..
THANKS GUYS...

I FEEL NEW AGAIN.. : woot:
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Will, your bike is fairly new, right? Any idea what discolored the black?
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a little over 2 yrs old now...
maybe spraying cleaning chemicals while still hot is the only thing i can think of...
Or over spray of wax and then heating up the engine...
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QUOTE(deuce04 @ Jul 30 2009, 09:24 AM) *
From the look of the fins it seems like salt air corrosion.

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QUOTE(Buck @ Aug 1 2009, 05:59 PM) *

look at the shifter linkage
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QUOTE(wholehog @ Aug 3 2009, 06:28 AM) *
look at the shifter linkage


That's what I was thinking . . . . .
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Mostly salt. Any cad plated part like the shift linkage, screw heads etc. will look gray and chrome will pit and rust. I don't think Harley has really mastered getting the black wrinkle on the fins and the clear coat on the edges to bond and cracks form where the two join.
Pig Spit, or my favorite, McGuier's "Back to Black" will get the black looking good, but the corrosion on the edges is aluminum oxide and has to be removed by grinding or sanding. The problem then is, it will continue to corrode and you'll need to keep after it. You might try a high temp clear lacquer, put on with an artists brush once you have the ugly spots removed. I'd try it somewhere inconspicuous first.

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thanks Ernie..
How you been man.? How was your Birthday?
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QUOTE(92Flstf @ Jul 30 2009, 07:29 PM) *
The paint on the edges of my fins was starting to "chip/flake" I ended up using BBQ grill paint (Hi Temp) and sanding the edges back to silver. I did this when I replaced the carb/petcock, so I had the tank off for more working room. Turned out great.

I used to use the high temp paint and instead of sanding, use a rag that you just sprayed with carburetor cleaner to "wipe" the cylinder edges. Very clean looking with no dust.
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Try steam-cleaner and rattle can hi-temp.

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Man. You guys gotta start checking the dates on these threads.
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QUOTE(MNHOG @ May 28 2012, 09:42 AM) *
Man. You guys gotta start checking the dates on these threads.



Hell, if we can get some new members to post up any contributions, we should celebrate it! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/green_beer.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/beerbang1.gif) Besides, the DOW scrubbing bubbles tip was a new one for me...glad this thread was bumped.
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I'll add to this thread, guess it's old enough now.
I bought a bottle of engine restorer called "Black Out" from a vendor at a rally about 5 years ago and decided to try it on my engine cases since they'd got to be dirty and lighter in color and had some chrome polish residue on them. The stuff was amazing! I put it on with a small foam paint dabber and waited an hour per the instructs. It immediately turned the cases deep dark flat black just like they were new. I got a little on the chrome but it wipes right off. It says it's good for rubber and plastics as well. I put some on my fairing switches and the headphone outlet cover at the tank which were both faded to white & they now look like new. They have a web site www.cleancycle.com and costs $12.95. It said it has teflon and will prevent the paint on the engine from flaking and peeling. I don't know how long it will last but it's been several days and 300 miles and still looks great. I believe this stuff is a keeper.
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Ok. Thanks !

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QUOTE(ultraTbone @ Jul 5 2012, 05:25 PM) *
I'll add to this thread, guess it's old enough now.
I bought a bottle of engine restorer called "Black Out" from a vendor at a rally about 5 years ago and decided to try it on my engine cases since they'd got to be dirty and lighter in color and had some chrome polish residue on them. The stuff was amazing! I put it on with a small foam paint dabber and waited an hour per the instructs. It immediately turned the cases deep dark flat black just like they were new. I got a little on the chrome but it wipes right off. It says it's good for rubber and plastics as well. I put some on my fairing switches and the headphone outlet cover at the tank which were both faded to white & they now look like new. They have a web site www.cleancycle.com and costs $12.95. It said it has teflon and will prevent the paint on the engine from flaking and peeling. I don't know how long it will last but it's been several days and 300 miles and still looks great. I believe this stuff is a keeper.


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As much of the my cases as I covered would've ground a sharpie to a nub. Besides it would leave a purple tinge.
Another product I tried is Mothers Back to Black($7 at Walmart). I used it on the plastic inner fairing and it turned out good also, but is more labor intensive than the other stuff. Haven't yet tried it on cases and cooling fins. Jury is still out on how any of it holds up in heat and weather.
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