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post Feb 5 2009, 09:44 PM
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I have been trying to research tire size for my 04 Ultra with 16" wheels. Can i go 140 or 150 rear with out mods and how big with slight mods (spacer)? Metzler lists 140 without mods, but a few strings lead me to believe a 150 might fit without mods. Will the front take a 140 without the fender lowering kit and a 150 with the fender lowering kit.
I know the older pre-04 require the spacer and belt guard mods, just got lost in a few strings with various age bikes 99-07 which have moved through 3 tire sizes (i think)
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post Mar 23 2009, 04:12 PM
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i put a 150 on the rear of my 07 street glide it had a 130 on it
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post Mar 23 2009, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(Buc @ Feb 5 2009, 09:44 PM) *
I have been trying to research tire size for my 04 Ultra with 16" wheels. Can i go 140 or 150 rear with out mods and how big with slight mods (spacer)? Metzler lists 140 without mods, but a few strings lead me to believe a 150 might fit without mods. Will the front take a 140 without the fender lowering kit and a 150 with the fender lowering kit.
I know the older pre-04 require the spacer and belt guard mods, just got lost in a few strings with various age bikes 99-07 which have moved through 3 tire sizes (i think)

The tire on your bike should be 143mm...Most people have no difficulty putting a 150 on the 2004 and up bikes.



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i put a 150 on the rear of my 07 street glide it had a 130 on it


If it was the stock tire you're talking about, it was 143mm. In 2004 HD's touring bikes went to the narrow drive belt and pulley and switched from the MT90 [130mm] to the newer MU90 [143mm]
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post Mar 23 2009, 08:31 PM
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also the metz has not be running true to size lately......dont know if this has to do with Perelli or what....so a metz 140 may be narrower than another brand 140
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post Mar 24 2009, 10:28 AM
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before i order new tire and wheel i called the local HD dealer they said on record i could go as big as the 143 off record a 150 would fit ----so far so good
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post Mar 25 2009, 12:01 PM
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I have researched the sh*^% out of this issue. All dimensions vary with manufacturer, i have attempted to measure clearances with the belt and fender. I have determined I will stay away from Metzeler based on all the negative comments and variations from Brazil, Pirelli owns Metz and the new Night Dragon is too new to get opinions on, Dunny Elite 3 only has MU90. The other issue is blackwall, narrow white wall and wide whitewall are not available in all sizes depending on manufacturer. So it looks like Avon Venom AM41/42 blackwall is the front runner with 150/80B16 77H, the dimensions and load rating seem good, performance is sticky and i may replace them a little early, but you can say a $150 a little early is worth the fun factor for stickin to the road.
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post Mar 25 2009, 05:42 PM
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T-cup, what brand did you go with? How much clearance at the belt?
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post Apr 15 2009, 07:15 AM
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Buc----I have'nt had the chance to get on here so if its not to late its about 5/16 inch from the belt to the tire and the tire is metzeler 880 it's a tight fit a bitch to get it up in place by my self. I got the set from hog pro
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post Apr 19 2009, 07:33 AM
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Who said patience is a virtue.....I've been waiting and waiting to get my rims back from the powdercoat guy, what was only going to be 4-5days has turned into 2-3 weeks. So who's the dummy that didn't start this back in January....now that the sun is shining and weather is here. With any luck at all, i will have the results next week.
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post May 19 2009, 04:00 PM
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The result is in....Avon 150/80/B16 77H fits an 04 ultra without ANY modification. Just enough clearance at the fender and belt guard with suspension fully bottomed out. The tire measured 5 7/8 installed. Put 200 miles on this weekend and I gotta say.....sticks like glue, baby. 150 gives it just a little more meaty look at the back.
The jury is still out on narrow white wall vs black wall, the first time I have put blackwalls on.
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post May 19 2009, 04:26 PM
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How close does the belt come to the tire?
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post May 20 2009, 03:23 PM
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With the belt guard in place around 3/16". The closest point is where the front half of the fender has a flange rolled inward, with the suspension fully depressed the widest point of the tire is just below the fender and over an 1/8" clearance on the left and 3/8" on the right. When I replace my tire next time, i think I will make spacers and modify the brake caliper to center the tire within the fender. They certainly are not symetrical when you eye things up.
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post May 20 2009, 07:21 PM
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Thanks I've been thinking about a 150 at some point if I can find one in WWW.
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post May 21 2009, 07:06 AM
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I searched Dunlop Elite 3, Metzeler, Avon, Pirelli. Metzeler ME880 has wide whitewall but the load rating is 71H which is only good for 761lbs. You will be fine if you ride solo and don't load up with gear.
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post May 21 2009, 07:11 AM
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That should be OK for me and the wife. Together we weigh 275 or so so I should be able to run 2 up with a chevy smallblock tied on the back.
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O.k, This is a really old Thread, and I am new guy here (just purchased a 2003 Ultra). Please bear with me.

I don't mean to "hijack" ERNIE'S, original post for a "2004 Ultra (Wide Tire Discussion)", but this is the most relevant (and detailed info on the subject), I have found ANYWHERE ON THE WEB!

I have not even picked my bike up from the dealership yet (its in storage until I can get a break in the weather to ride it home), or have it shipped. I know deep in my bones, this will be my first MOD on my 2003 FLHTCUI.



"WE" 2000-2003 FL owners, even have a WORSE stock rear tire (in the 130 series)...... This will just NOT do. I hope to tow a trailer "TWO-UP". We want this bike to be our "Married Couple/Vacation Get-away-RIDE" This will be the most important purpose of our Ultra's existence. I am digging for clues, and will appreciate, any help.

I have two questions:

1) Does anyone have any knowledge on this cheap conversion kit from "PINGEL"?
Pingel 2000-2003 Rear Sprocket Spacer

2) Is there a size difference between the 2003, and 2004 rear Ultra RIMS? (If so, I might be stuck at the 142mm Dunlop's aspect, recommended by Pingel's).

Great to be here, I appreciate the time.
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post Dec 13 2013, 08:01 AM
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I used a spacer simialr to that for my Deuce to convert to a 180 tire.
Been on for 6 years and no problems.

Its usually a tighter fit when installing the tire but thats all the fun

I got mine here

http://vulcanworks.net/index.html

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post Dec 14 2013, 07:23 AM
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Too Cool. Thanks to Deuce, I have already saved 50 bucks.

Vulcan has the same part for sale here, for $13.00 :


vulcan 142 wide tire pulley/sprocket spacer
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post Dec 14 2013, 08:16 AM
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I might want to call each of these companies, and see what kind of steel they boast, but either way this is good news. How often do we get to do a "mod", under a "HUNDY"???

My first question has been answered..... In relation to my second question, and 2004 FL guys achieving 150mm aspect tires:

Are there any differences between the 2003, and 2004 that will prohibit me using a 150 mm, with this mod? a.k.a (Rim)? (Chassis)?, or (Drivetrain)?
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QUOTE(kampcool @ Dec 14 2013, 08:16 AM) *
I might want to call each of these companies, and see what kind of steel they boast, but either way this is good news. How often do we get to do a "mod", under a "HUNDY"???

My first question has been answered..... In relation to my second question, and 2004 FL guys achieving 150mm aspect tires:

Are there any differences between the 2003, and 2004 that will prohibit me using a 150 mm, with this mod? a.k.a (Rim)? (Chassis)?, or (Drivetrain)?



Its an aluminum spacer same as the wheel at least in my case
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