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<H1 class=article>AMA: The Price Of Loud Pipes And Excessive Noise Is, Lost Rights For Motorcyclists</H1>Feb 10, 2009, ęCopyright 2009, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

<H5></H5>From a press release issued by AMA

Threats to motorcycling in America, Part 2

The AMA's Rob Dingman discusses the challenge of excessive sound

PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- For the past 21 months, American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) President and CEO Rob Dingman has been leading the world's largest motorcyclists' rights organization through a reorganization to rededicate the AMA to its core mission: protecting and promoting the future of motorcycling and the motorcycle lifestyle.

In this interview -- the second of a three-part series by AmericanMotorcyclist.com -- Dingman discusses the most contentious issue in motorcycling today: excessive sound.


AM: Many street riders have a long-held belief that a loud exhaust system alerts car and truck drivers to their presence. Yet cities and towns across America are enacting very strict sound ordinances that target motorcycles unfairly. What is the AMA doing about this?

RD: The single greatest threat to motorcycling in America -- both on- and off-highway, including ATVs -- is excessive exhaust sound. Nearly everyone we talk to in the motorcycling and OHV (off-highway vehicle) community echoes this concern. For many riders, their machines are an extension of their personalities, and this includes the distinctive sound of their engine's exhaust. I completely understand that. But as motorcyclists, we have to realize that we live in a world already filled with unwanted distractions, and chief among them is sound that is so excessive that it becomes a nuisance to the general public. Excessive exhaust sound plants targets squarely on the backs of all riders, even those who ride with reasonably quiet exhaust systems.

It is important to remember that this problem is not limited to motorcycles and OHVs. Loud cars and trucks, booming car stereos, poorly maintained generators, whining leaf blowers -- they are all part of the problem. However, just because there are other sources of unwanted noise does not mean that the motorcycling community can excuse itself. We have to be part of the solution.

So to answer the question, the AMA and our sister organization, the ATVA (All-Terrain Vehicle Association), must simultaneously do two things. First, we have to get our own house in order, and by that I mean all riders must take an active role in the self-regulation of sound. Second, we have to stand up against government actions that unfairly single out motorcycles and OHVs for discriminatory or punitive enforcement.


AM: What role can the AMA and ATVA take in the self-regulation of excessive sound?

RD: The first thing we have to do -- through publicity, peer pressure and support of appropriate sound ordinances -- is tell our friends and acquaintances who ride loud bikes and OHVs to tone it down. We need to lead by example and convey the idea that it is totally unacceptable to ride an obnoxiously loud machine. Next, we have to stop installing unmuffled exhaust systems on our bikes. Thundering cruisers with straight pipes, howling sport bikes with competition exhausts, and barking dirt bikes and OHVs with unpacked silencers have no place on our public streets and trails. While I realize this statement may cost the AMA and ATVA some members, if we continue to ignore the serious and negative impact that excessively loud bikes and OHVs are having in our communities, we are going to see more draconian measures to restrict sound, more targeting of riders, and fewer places where we are allowed to ride. Just one irresponsible rider can negatively impact the rights of countless others.


AM: Have you seen any progress to date?

RD: The AMA and its partners started a public dialog about excessive sound in the early 2000s, and the OHV community has embraced the concept of quieter motorcycles and ATVs in a big way. We have seen leadership emerge among the sport's heroes and influencers. For example, at the invitational Colorado 500, which attracts the industry's movers and shakers, the organizers have brought down the sound of their off-road bikes from well over 100 dB(A) to 96 dB(A) using the SAE J1287 stationary sound measurement standard. It's become a matter of pride for entrants to have the quietest bike. And when these riders go home, they set the example for others to follow.

California is another example. AMA districts and clubs have been at the forefront of the issue, and were key participants to changes made in the state law. Today they are actively enforcing 96 dB(A) at their events.

The manufacturers' professional racing teams are also involved, and this year both AMA Supercross and Motocross machines must meet the FIM-developed 94 dB(A) standard. And starting in 2011, AMA Racing will be enforcing similar standards in amateur racing.

There's more good news: Many more aftermarket exhaust manufacturers build high-quality exhaust systems that readily meet these standards with no degradation in performance.

The AMA supports these grass-roots efforts by providing sound-testing equipment to our districts and clubs through a grant program. The kits help test the sound level of OHVs to help riders understand how loud -- or quiet -- their bikes are, and also ensure that competition machines are in compliance with AMA standards.


AM: What challenges remain?

RD: While we have made headway in the OHV community, there are still OHV and motocross riders who run excessively loud exhausts, so we have more work to do here.

Beyond that, our most pervasive challenge today is in the streetbike community, where loud bikes are all-too-common. The same measures that are working with OHV riders -- peer pressure and self-regulation -- are what is needed to bring about tangible change. Fortunately, most riders, and a number of clubs, have seen the writing on the wall and are already talking to their members about quieting down their bikes. The key is to regulate ourselves before the government does it for us. We certainly won't like their solution.


AM: If the AMA is in favor of reducing excessive sound, why does the AMA oppose ordinances and legislation intended to do just that?

RD: Great question. The AMA opposes measures that target only motorcycles, and measures that are unfair. If an ordinance or a bill considers all noise sources -- not just motorcycles -- and is reasonable in its solution, then we can support it. And we have done so.

Nevertheless, we must remain vigilant against poorly crafted legislation that singles out motorcycles and OHVs from other vehicles and offending sound sources. This is currently the case in New York City, where a proposed sound ordinance would mandate an EPA-stamped motorcycle exhaust system, effectively requiring an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) system for streetbikes up to 20 years old. So we are working to oppose badly thought-out initiatives, while at the same time educating legislators about fair and reasonable strategies to curb excessive sound.


AM: What can we expect next?

RD: The AMA and ATVA are taking a leadership position in this effort by saying that obnoxiously loud bikes and OHVs are not acceptable, and that we will work with riders to demonstrate the benefits of quieter exhausts. We want to positively influence our peers and quiet excessively loud motorcycles and OHVs to ensure greater access to public lands and city streets, plus the continued availability of accessory exhaust systems. Also, we are looking forward to seeing an SAE-developed, easy-to-implement streetbike sound standard and testing method that will help municipalities enforce reasonable measures to reduce excessive sound. With these tools we can demonstrate that the motorcycling and OHV communities are acting responsibly when it comes to sound.

I can't stress enough that curbing excessive sound is the most important issue that we can address today. We have to do this if we want to expand opportunities for riders, reduce threats to riding and usher in a new generation of riders who are not limited by bike bans, land closures and unjust regulation. If we do this, we can get back to what riding motorcycles is all about -- having fun.

Next installment: Rob Dingman discusses the AMA's comprehensive approach to rider safety, helmet laws and rider education.


About the American Motorcyclist Association
Since 1924, the AMA has promoted and protected the motorcycling lifestyle. AMA members come from all walks of life and they navigate many different roads on their journey to the same destination: freedom on two wheels. As the world's largest motorcycle organization with nearly 300,000 members, the AMA advocates for motorcyclists' interests in the halls of local, state and federal government, the committees of international governing organizations and the court of public opinion. Through member clubs, promoters and partners, the AMA sanctions more motorsports competition events than any other organization in the world. Through its Motorcycle Hall of Fame Museum, the AMA preserves the heritage of motorcycling for future generations. For more information, visit www.AmericanMotorcyclist.com.
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post Feb 12 2009, 09:10 AM
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i try to ride fast enough that i only annoy for a few moments then i'm gooooooooooone>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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How about they tell the assholes on the cell phones not to use them.

Thats the problem not the loud exhaust...Fuckin Liberal pussies
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I HAVE TO SAY I LOVE LOUD PIPES!!! THE LOUDER THE BEDDER!!!! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif) BUT THE LOCAL AND STATE POLICE HERE ARE GETTING BAD!!! THEY ARE GIVING TICKETS OUT LIKE CANDY!!! I SAY FUCK EM ALL!!!! IF YA LIKE EM USE EM!!!! (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif)
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QUOTE(deuce04 @ Feb 12 2009, 11:36 AM) *
How about they tell the assholes on the cell phones not to use them.

Thats the problem not the loud exhaust...Fuckin Liberal pussies


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How about they tell the assholes on the cell phones not to use them.

Thats the problem not the loud exhaust...Fuckin Liberal pussies


Amen....

Now the fuckers want to drive and text... WTF??? (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/wtf.gif)
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<H1 class=article>AMA: Mandates Often Result In Unintended Consequences For The People Who Are Most Affected By Them</H1>Feb 12, 2009, ęCopyright 2009, Roadracing World Publishing, Inc.

<H5></H5>From a press release issued by AMA:

Threats to motorcycling in America, Part 3

The AMA's Rob Dingman talks about helmet use and rider education

PICKERINGTON, Ohio -- For the past 21 months, American Motorcyclist Association (AMA) President and CEO Rob Dingman has been leading the world's largest motorcyclists' rights organization through a reorganization to rededicate the AMA to its core mission: protecting and promoting the future of motorcycling and the motorcycle lifestyle.

In this third in a three-part series of interviews, conducted by AmericanMotorcyclist.com, the website of the AMA, Dingman discusses the Association's comprehensive approach to rider safety, helmet laws and rider education.

AM: The AMA does many things for its members. It sanctions amateur racing, provides discounted services and products, and lobbies for motorcycling interests. Yet, many in the motorcycling community seem to hold onto misconceptions about what the AMA stands for. How do you respond?

RD: We stand for choice, and we accept the responsibility that comes with making choices. This attitude, I might add, is very prevalent among motorcyclists, both on- and off-highway, whether they are AMA members or not.

The AMA, and our sister organization the ATVA (All-Terrain Vehicle Association), advocate for personal responsibility on the part of all motorcyclists and OHV (off-highway vehicle) riders. Not surprisingly, the typical AMA or ATVA member describes himself or herself as someone who rides and acts responsibly. They don't want unnecessary regulation, preferring instead to make educated, responsible choices about the motorcycles they ride, the riding gear they wear, and the places where they ride. For that reason, the AMA and the ATVA do not support mandates. Mandates often result in unintended consequences for the people who are most affected by them.

AM: The AMA talks about a comprehensive approach to motorcycle safety. What does that really mean?

RD: That's a good question, and one that many people ask. A truly comprehensive approach to rider safety includes training, licensing, proper gear and riding unimpaired. All of these components contribute significantly to the safety of riders.

AM: How does the AMA's philosophy of choice factor into its position on mandatory helmet laws? And how do you respond to some people who say that the AMA is "anti-helmet?"

RD: I simply say that it's not true. The AMA strongly encourages everyone to wear a properly fitted motorcycle helmet that is certified by its manufacturer to meet the DOT standard. However, we also believe that appropriate gear should remain a personal choice for adults, and not something mandated by law. The AMA does not oppose mandatory helmet laws for minors. But again, once a person reaches adulthood, the decision to choose whatever gear he or she feels is appropriate should not be mandated by the government.

AM: So why does AMA oppose helmet mandates? Where's the harm?

RD: Because mandates have unintended consequences. Proponents of mandatory helmet laws see these laws as a cure-all for motorcycle injuries and fatalities, when in fact they do nothing to prevent crashes from occurring in the first place. We want to prevent crashes, rather than simply deal with their consequences.

Let's face it, almost any motorcycle crash is going to expose the rider to far more harm than the driver of an automobile. And the fact of the matter is that there are much smarter ways to prevent motorcycle injuries and fatalities, such as rider education, riding unimpaired and driver-awareness programs that include modules within existing driver education courses alerting drivers to the presence of motorcycles in the traffic mix.

The AMA and its members battle every year at the federal and state level to protect funding for rider education and driver awareness. When mandatory helmet laws are passed, safety officials tend to think "problem solved," and they pass the burden of an unfunded mandate to the enforcement community. Once that happens, funding for preventive strategies like rider education and driver awareness is often shelved. This makes the problem worse for riders, not better.

AM: Are there any other examples of mandates that the AMA opposes?

RD: Yes, we oppose mandatory rider training. Some states have gone so far as to mandate rider education, but we don't agree with this strategy. While on the surface this argument may have a nice ring to it, the reality is that every state program is currently stretched to the breaking point just trying to meet the needs of motorcyclists who seek training. When states pass these unfunded mandates, they force riders to wait many more months for training.

One unintended consequence is that some riders will then forego training altogether and risk riding unlicensed, which is nearly impossible for law enforcement to monitor. And unlicensed riders are already overrepresented in crash and fatality statistics.

As an alternative to mandatory rider training, we believe that greater funding of existing programs, improved training reciprocity between states, and other incentives -- for example, insurance discounts -- would result in more riders completing rider training courses.

On top of that, riding instructors are hard to find, train and keep. These people are enthusiasts who want to give something back to motorcycling, and often they are not well-paid. When you force students who don't want to be there into the classroom, the instructor corps becomes disenchanted and dwindles rapidly at the very time that more of them are needed.

AM: What message does the AMA want to deliver to a beginning rider who is unfamiliar with these issues?

RD: If I could stress one thing about motorcycling to a novice rider, it would be this: take responsibility for how you ride. That means get trained, get licensed, wear protective gear, including a helmet, ride unimpaired, run a quiet exhaust, observe the rules of the road, and ride, ride ride! When you do these things, motorcycling is a lot of fun. And remember to join the AMA -- because we make sure your right to ride is protected.

This is the last of the three-part series, "Threats to motorcycling in America, conversations with the AMA's Rob Dingman." To read all three parts, including Dingman's answers to questions about public land access and excessive sound, go to www.AmericanMotoryclist.com
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Everything today has a price.

There is certainly a difference between the loud bike at 3:00 pm Saturday versus the same bike at 3:00 am


The bottom line is there are more poeple without loud pipes then people with ... so adventually the one group with win ... and then of course we all lose.
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First, I could care less about what the AMA has to say about anything, I have not been a member since 1976. I love the sound of my thunder headers. Its my choice to do what I want to my bike.
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QUOTE(Night Rider @ Feb 13 2009, 02:14 PM) *
Everything today has a price.

There is certainly a difference between the loud bike at 3:00 pm Saturday versus the same bike at 3:00 am


The bottom line is there are more poeple without loud pipes then people with ... so adventually the one group with win ... and then of course we all lose.


And, then of course you have perception. What one person thinks is loud is different than another. Don't give away your rights. Fight for them! If you don't, one at a time watch them slip away...

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A town 20 miles north of here decided that motorcycles were obnoxious and they would ban them from a certain area in town where the yuppies were having a hard time hearing their fucking cell phones while driving their beemers through.
The night their new ordinance came up for a vote 250 bikers showed up to their 100 seat City Council chamber meeting. Bottom line is ABATE's lawyers told them they were in for one hell of a lawsuit and it is still legal to ride down Atlantic Avenue in Delray Beach.
So what do they do? The friggin Mayor tells the Police Chief to ticket loud motorcycles.. ABATE got the word out and they are assisting in the defense of the pipe tickets. Every case that has come to trial has been dismissed and the judges are good and pissed at Madam Mayor for clogging up their dockets. Just remember. If your town decides to single out motorcycles, the US Constitution has that pesky "Equal Protection" clause. Even if scooters are not singled out, in the ordinance, you need to watch if it is being used primarily against bikes.
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just use common sense, i'm running 2" rush slip on's , while in town or a subdivision and such i just try to take it easy and respect folk's ears. although last summer they probably saved my butt when four teenage girls all on cell phone's in the same car [jeez oh hell] pushed me out of my lane, i cracked the throttle and got missy's attention real fast. as for the A.M.A there pretty much out of touch...
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QUOTE(Night Rider @ Feb 13 2009, 02:14 PM) *
Everything today has a price.

There is certainly a difference between the loud bike at 3:00 pm Saturday versus the same bike at 3:00 am


The bottom line is there are more poeple without loud pipes then people with ... so adventually the one group with win ... and then of course we all lose.


is that your wifes arse? damn that's fine...
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I like my pipes...especially when I pull up next to a car that is playing loud rap music...on more than one occasion I have caused them to roll-up their windows. Another time at a gas station I heard the dudes bitch complain about my pipes...she couldn't hear her loud rap music over them....(IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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QUOTE(geek @ Feb 22 2009, 03:27 PM) *
is that your wifes arse? damn that's fine...



Yeah it is. His real name is Warren Jeffs, or was it Joseph Smith? (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif)

Must be. Cause them pics keep changin'. (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)

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"The AMA in 1947 denounced the Bastards MC, saying it was unfortunate that 1 percent of motorcyclists should ruin it for the law-abiding 99 percent. To this day, the 1 percent insignia remains a badge of honor, worn with pride by those who define themselves as not part of that milquetoast 99 percent majority." Now the AMA is telling us to use a kinder, Gentler exaust system. Why? So we all can confrm to the 99% majority?
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QUOTE(geek @ Feb 21 2009, 12:09 PM) *
just use common sense, i'm running 2" rush slip on's , while in town or a subdivision and such i just try to take it easy and respect folk's ears. although last summer they probably saved my butt when four teenage girls all on cell phone's in the same car [jeez oh hell] pushed me out of my lane, i cracked the throttle and got missy's attention real fast. as for the A.M.A there pretty much out of touch...


I believe the common sense approach will help. When I'm crusing down the street I will dump the clutch as I pass people to quiet things down. My bike is loud and I live in a populated area. Does the young couple walking their infant want to hear my pipes screaming at 130dB?? Probably not. I can respect that.

Unfortunately...even if we all try to "behave" they will regulate loud pipes out of existence. Like it or not it's gunna happen. I just hope by then my bike is grandfathered...LOL
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I believe the common sense approach will help. When I'm crusing down the street I will dump the clutch as I pass people to quiet things down. My bike is loud and I live in a populated area. Does the young couple walking their infant want to hear my pipes screaming at 130dB?? Probably not. I can respect that.

Unfortunately...even if we all try to "behave" they will regulate loud pipes out of existence. Like it or not it's gunna happen. I just hope by then my bike is grandfathered...LOL




Zip ... if you want your bike "Grandfathered" then you need a Bagger like the rest of the Grandpas ...




















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post May 12 2009, 10:49 PM
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You guys are hilarious. I LOVE my Vance and Hines drag pipes.

I try to be as quiet as possible when neccessary. But the rest of the time???????
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I'm kind of excited. I ordered new pipes today! I'm getting some krome werks AR2 2" drag pipes! :) I hope they are loud enough! lol I've had the stock pipes with mufflers on them and want loud!

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QUOTE(safety-man @ May 14 2009, 01:05 PM) *
I'm kind of excited. I ordered new pipes today! I'm getting some krome werks AR2 2" drag pipes! :) I hope they are loud enough! lol I've had the stock pipes with mufflers on them and want loud!

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They'll be loud, Safety. Bike prolly won't run too good, but they'll be loud. Enjoy!~
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I modified the baffle in my Vance and Hines 2 into 1 Propipe last year a bit and I regretted it all the fucking way to and from Texas. The fiberglass packing had burned and blown out long ago, so I wrapped the baffle in medium grade steel wool....but then I was afraid maybe it would be a little too restrictive so I drilled a couple holes in the end plate of the baffle which sounds fine [nice deep and loud] below 70mph. Over 70 however, like the 80+mph that we did on the interstate down and back, and the exhaust tone was so fucking loud I couldn't hear my stereo for shit and even with earplugs in, my ears rang for hours after we got off the bikes. I'm going to drill and pop-rivett a plate over those holes as soon as I get back from this Black Hills trip.

You guys can keep your fucking drag pipes for your bar hoppers.

Safety...I believe those AR pipes have the KhromeWerks patented baffles in them which sound fantastic...at least they did in my touring slip-ons that I used to have.
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QUOTE(Fgowi @ May 14 2009, 01:24 PM) *
They'll be loud, Safety. Bike prolly won't run too good, but they'll be loud. Enjoy!~


So, why wouldn't it run too good?
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So, why wouldn't it run too good?


If your AR 'drag pipes' have the baffle I'm thinking of, they should do alright. Most/many drag pipes are nothing more than bent tubing with no baffle at all. They are very loud but do not produce the back pressure the motor needs to build optimal torque in the usuable rpm range. They were and are made for free breathing at wide open throttle power...hence the term drag pipe.

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AR« 2" Drag Racing Exhausts - for stock to big-inch motors. Full 2" diameter from flange to miter. Bologna cut style. Great upper mid-range and top end performance. Awesome sound! Not for use on the street unless used with HP+ 2" Baffles (improved low-end and mid-range performance as well as significant noise reduction). -One-piece construction. No welds to impede flow.
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GET THE BAFFLES SAFETY!!! Trust me...they will still sound awesome and your bike will run much better. Look at their patented baffles...they work and sound GREAT!

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Ok, I just called about baffles. They have 4", 10" and 12". They said the 12" would be best for performance, but how loud will it be? Will I be able to hear a "noticeable" difference? I still want it loud!! :) Any suggestions?

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Anything is going to be louder than stock...

The shorter baffles will be the loudest.
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Well, got my pipes on and I'm very excited. Now I'm a real bad ass biker dude! :)

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QUOTE(safety-man @ Jun 6 2009, 07:13 AM) *
Well, got my pipes on and I'm very excited. Now I'm a real bad ass biker dude! :)

safety


Did you go with baffles?...and if so which ones? How do they sound? I was really pleased with my KhromeWerks HP+100 slip-ons I had.
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actually, I haven't put the baffles in yet, I'm still excited about the loud! I did get the 4" baffles though. AND something that suprised me was that the gas mileage went up. I was getting around 138-140 (somewhere in there) and filled her up the other day with 156miles on the tank.

I still need to do the rejet of the carb. I think that will help even more witht the gas mileage won't it?

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QUOTE(safety-man @ Jun 6 2009, 04:30 PM) *
actually, I haven't put the baffles in yet, I'm still excited about the loud! I did get the 4" baffles though. AND something that suprised me was that the gas mileage went up. I was getting around 138-140 (somewhere in there) and filled her up the other day with 156miles on the tank.

I still need to do the rejet of the carb. I think that will help even more witht the gas mileage won't it?

laterz,

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maybe you should wait on the rejet if you bike is performing better right now. It's possible the previous owner had already jetted it too rich and freeing up the breathing has brought back the performance a bit. That improved gas mileage would likely reverse if you rejet.
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I parked and went into the bank, yesterday, which is right beside the police office. When I came out, there was one policeman standing in front of the station talking on his cell phone, another walking up the sidewalk, and I needed to go. My bike was cold, which necessitates more throttle. I sure had their attention as I pulled away.
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QUOTE(Charley @ May 25 2012, 08:47 AM) *
I parked and went into the bank, yesterday, which is right beside the police office. When I came out, there was one policeman standing in front of the station talking on his cell phone, another walking up the sidewalk, and I needed to go. My bike was cold, which necessitates more throttle. I sure had their attention as I pulled away.


your bike was cold though you'd just ridden to the bank?

edit: and no offense intended, Charley. Nice to "meet you".

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QUOTE(Mr. Natural @ May 25 2012, 09:01 AM) *
your bike was cold though you'd just ridden to the bank?

edit: and no offense intended, Charley. Nice to "meet you".


Actually, I had flooded the carb with the enricher (my dumb mistake,) before riding only a block from my office to the bank. Bike didn't much want to run when I came out of the bank. I've since learned to leave that little lever alone. Just got this Harley and love it. Been riding a ricer.
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