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craigo333
post Jul 19 2016, 12:45 PM
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just added a set of saddlebags with built in lights and now my blinkers wont flash. they come on solid when I hit the switch. my emergency flashers work just fine. what did I do? please help
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post Jul 20 2016, 05:01 AM
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Do these new turn signals completely replace the ones that were previously on the bike? If so, do they PLUG in to the wiring harness? Or did you have to cut wires and make a connection?
Maybe it's an impedance mismatch?
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post Jul 20 2016, 05:17 PM
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Thanks for responding so quickly. Yeah the saddlebags came with turn signal lights installed. I had to cut the wires to remove the stock turn signals. I spliced the wires that led back to the plug-in with the saddlebag wires. the emergency flashers work just fine but when I flip the switch for the turn signal the light comes on steady.
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post Jul 20 2016, 06:38 PM
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If the bulbs are the plug in type, vs. the push and turn type, you may have the wrong bulbs.
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post Jul 20 2016, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(Bamsambo @ Jul 20 2016, 06:38 PM) *
If the bulbs are the plug in type, vs. the push and turn type, you may have the wrong bulbs.

they are the push and turn type...they came with the saddlebags
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post Jul 20 2016, 09:06 PM
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Mmmmm not sure, but it sounds like there's not enough draw. Maybe?
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post Jul 20 2016, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(Blackcloud @ Jul 20 2016, 09:06 PM) *
Mmmmm not sure, but it sounds like there's not enough draw. Maybe?

That's an idea...what do you suggest blackcloud
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post Jul 21 2016, 04:24 AM
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Compare the old bulbs to the new. See if there's a difference. Double check your connections to ensure you have good contact.
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post Jul 21 2016, 08:27 AM
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turn signal is controlled by TSSM/TSM which is looking for a certain current draw....

what is the OE bulb type and what is the aftermarket bulb type? can you change to the OE bulb?

is this a Kuryacan set-up? I hate their electrics

what BC said....

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post Jul 21 2016, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(wholehog @ Jul 21 2016, 08:27 AM) *
turn signal is controlled by TSSM/TSM which is looking for a certain current draw....

what is the OE bulb type and what is the aftermarket bulb type? can you change to the OE bulb?

is this a Kuryacan set-up? I hate their electrics

what BC said....
you guys sound very knowledgeable about this problem. I appreciate all the feedback. That being said i should have added that with the original bulbs that came with the saddlebags i had the same problem. I ordered led bulbs from superbright and the problem continued. When i cut the wires i had to drive home and the blinkers on the front were solid when i flipped the switch. Did i break something?
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post Jul 21 2016, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(craigo333 @ Jul 21 2016, 10:14 AM) *
you guys sound very knowledgeable about this problem.


These other guys might be. I'm only stabbing at basics.

Did you break something? Maybe, but nothing that can't be fixed. Maybe a loose contact or something. Whatever the fault is, you're gonna kick yourself. It's gonna be something simple and right under your nose.
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post Jul 21 2016, 08:48 PM
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Slow down. Start over. Make damn sure you are putting it together correctly.
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post Jul 22 2016, 07:51 AM
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if you have LEDs in there the TSSM wont like it....you will need a load balancer....wasn't there an instruction sheet with the bags?

nothing changes if you rewire it like it was and use the same bulbs
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post Jul 22 2016, 08:19 AM
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QUOTE(wholehog @ Jul 22 2016, 07:51 AM) *
if you have LEDs in there the TSSM wont like it....you will need a load balancer....wasn't there an instruction sheet with the bags?

nothing changes if you rewire it like it was and use the same bulbs

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post Jul 22 2016, 08:25 AM
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There was no instructions or mounting hardware with the bags. I had to wing it. I don't know electric very well. I certainly don't know what a load balancer is. Please tell me how to go about this. And where to find this load thing. I appoligize for my stupidity in advance.

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post Jul 23 2016, 07:47 AM
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who makes the bags?

were the bulbs the came with the bag incandescent or LED?

what kind of bulbs are in there now - incandescent or LED?
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post Jul 23 2016, 08:29 AM
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The maker of the bags is wak rays. The bulbs were incandescent that came in the bags but they didnt work either. When i replaced the cheap bulbs with superbright led's i hoped this would correct the problem. No luck.

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I agree that the TSSM / TSM can give you some problems that are hard to trace.




Incandescent have different impedance (resistance) than an LED. LEDs may not have enough resistance for the TSSM to sense its presence. The load balancer would provide that resistance or lack thereof. I'm sorry. I"m aware of their existance cause I'm converting my stock '57 Chevy pick up to a 2000 frame/engince/electronics. So, pretty sure I"m going to need one outboard of the ECM.



I know you could not care less about my truck. Just trying to give you some more insight as to what MOGHT be your issue.


Good Luck
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forget the LEDs for now

look at the bottom of the OE bulb and compare to the bottom of the wak rays bulb are they the same?

is there one or two contacts on the bottom?
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