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> Let's revisit an old subject..., Helmets.
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post May 11 2006, 05:46 PM
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Love em'? Hate em'? Wear em'? Plant flowers in em'?? Run them over with your F350???

I'll start by saying...it's a personal choice. No right or wrong.

.......unless we are talking State laws. ;) We all know how we feel about that shit!!

I'm curious because my habits have changed. What once was "24 / 7 not an inch of road without one" has now become only "on the slab"...

What say you?
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post May 11 2006, 05:51 PM
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I hate helmets...any helmets! I hate the feel of them. I hate the look of them. I just hate them. I know I should wear one but I just hate them. They are heavy and bulky and uncomfortable. Takes everythign I enjoy about riding away (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif)


How's that Zip? (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 11 2006, 06:04 PM
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Doesn't matter to me. We don't really have a "Helmet" law in Georgia. We have a "Head Protection" law. There have been people beat the ticket simply because they were wearing a cap to "protect" their head from the sun. It's just too much hassle to have to go to court to show the Judge the error in the law. Besides, that little ole novelty I wear ain't much, and have never ridden without a helmet of some kind anyway. Guess you can't miss something you never had.
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post May 11 2006, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(zip @ May 11 2006, 06:46 PM)
I'm curious because my habits have changed. What once was "24 / 7 not an inch of road without one" has now become only "on the slab"...

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I say that is stupid statement (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/confused.gif)

Is the concrete or asphalt softer off the "slab"??? (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

Not trying to be a dick but think about what you said.
We dont have helmet law in CT but I wear a skid lid all the time.
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post May 11 2006, 06:09 PM
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Missouri = mandatory helmet law

I wear a 3/4 in the winter and always wish I had it on in the rain. Up until lately, std 1/2 helmet in warm weather but gets to be a pain because it lifts up in the wind. Started wearing a novelty helmet few weeks ago cause it stays on better in the wind. I enjoy riding without but most of my riding is with.
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post May 11 2006, 06:14 PM
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eh ... take'm or leave'm - although i will say i don't wear 'em in the states that don't require 'em
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post May 11 2006, 06:19 PM
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its been said many a time before, helmets are like condoms. You know you should wear em, but it so much more fun without.

Dot and I are wearin' ours more and more. Maybe we are starting to worry that the odds are catching up with us, I dunno, but with the half shells we have, you don't even notice you're wearin em after a while. I always wear one when I'm ridin' dirt bike so go figure.
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post May 11 2006, 06:21 PM
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I DONT WEAR ONE UNLESS I HAVE TO REQUIRED BY LAW. MY PHILOSOPHY IS THIS. IF IM GOING DOWN THE ROAD AT 75 MPH AND WRECK OR GET HIT, THE REST OF ME IS GONNA BE SO FUCKED UP I DONT WANT MY BRAIN TO BE ABLE TO REALIZE IT. THEY ARE LIKE A RUBBER. UNCOMFORTABLE AS HELL!
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post May 11 2006, 06:30 PM
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No option for me... Military states that I MUST wear one. I'd hate to crack my noggin have not get the insurance for the old lady.... BUT, I hate it......
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post May 11 2006, 06:54 PM
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Always.

Had a friend I was riding with die in a relatively low speed accident. If he had been wearing one, he'd be alive today and still riding. Had another friend at 75 mph on the interstate crash and survived because she was wearing a helmet. Without it she would have been dead. Cuts down wind noise and helps preserve your hearing. Lessens fatique due to wind noise. You want to go deaf, don't wear a helmet or earplugs, I do both. At highway speeds your at 130 dB without earplugs or a helmet. Hearing loss starts after 15 minutes of exposure. Stop riding and hear ringing or have a muffled feeling to your hearing, you're going deaf.

I look at helmets like I looked at wearing a ballistic vest. They're uncomfortable and hot, but look at the consequences if not wearing one when you should have been.

We wear boots because they protect us and make us look cool.
We wear chaps and leather pants because they protect us and make us look cool.
We wear leather jackets because they protect us and make us look cool.
We wear gloves because they protect us and make us look cool .
We should wear helmets to protect us, but we don't because we think they don't make us look cool.

My soapbox speech for the day.
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post May 11 2006, 07:01 PM
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what is utterly ridiculous to me is seeing somebody all decked out in their leather gear, riding sans helmet.
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post May 11 2006, 07:03 PM
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Nebraska has a helmet law, so I have to wear one, but I would wear one anyway. It was a deal that I made with my wife when I told her that I wanted to get a bike. I figure that I owe it to her and the kids. (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/geek.gif)
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post May 11 2006, 07:37 PM
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Back in the day, I used to head up to Ct or out to PA with my buddies and go helmet less. Never felt comfortable riding without the helmet. Over the years I've gone down a few times and was thankful I had a helmet on. Now I even have a full face, which I use on long trips. That full face made my recent ride back from the BRP a hell of alot easier. "To each his own."
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post May 11 2006, 07:53 PM
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zip, I started riding in Ohio in hippie days and I dont even remember if at that time helmets were mandatory but I know there was no such thing as a "motorcycle endorsment" on your license.....

I believe in the old saying about there being two kinds of bikers:
those that have went down and
those that are gonna go down

I had some brain buckets with big gashes in them and LOOK AT ME NOW....I aint too fucked up (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

it may save you and it may not but I wear it cause I been there and done that and busted some bones

good luck

ps: did I tell you that this is some good wine?

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post May 11 2006, 07:59 PM
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Have gone down and it don't feel too good.

I'd wear it even if I didn't have to.

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post May 11 2006, 08:13 PM
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my brother and I were riding 2nd day of January 2003. Rounded a curve, and he got wide and lost it. After about a half mile I looked back, discovered he wasn't there, rode back and found him in a ditch with the heritage on top of him, and he's bleeding out the mouth and unconscience. I was scared as I think I've ever been. Long story short- his (DOT) helmet had a real deep gash along the side of it. Without it, I don't suppose he'd be here.

Kinda like Sammy said- I grew up wearing one since I was 10, cause it was the law (although I was underaged anyways when I started) so I wouldn't know any difference.
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everybody does their own thing....dont make them better or worse
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post May 11 2006, 08:22 PM
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frankly, if Georgia and Alabama didn't have a helmet law, I probably wouldn't use one, but they do, so it's a moot point.
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post May 11 2006, 08:28 PM
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some of you guys remeber that couple from Rochester NY that was trailering south in Oct from the HZ and stopped in Maryland to see a friend...they rode the RK and smacked into a tree....... both wearing helmets....both dead on the spot.....aint no magic bullet when your card is up boys

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post May 11 2006, 08:29 PM
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I wear a non-dot Carbon Fiber by ACC. I think it's a good compromise for me. Little bit more than a novelty helmet, but a tad shy off on d.o.t. regs. However, during the summer it is real tempting to go lid free when it's 95+ degrees.

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post May 11 2006, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(Ordy @ May 11 2006, 08:59 PM)
Have gone down and it don't feel too good.

I'd wear it even if I didn't have to.

Ride Safe
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Agreed 100%...

I wear a carbon-fiber shorty helmet (non DOT)...the DOT ones are too bulky.

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post May 11 2006, 08:31 PM
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well, Sammy posted up above that Georgia's law only required "head protection" or some such. I never knew that. Still, like him, it would hardly be worth the trip to court to fight it. I have a little lightweight non dot helmet and never been stopped (knock on wood).
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post May 11 2006, 08:32 PM
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I went down when I was 13. The first thing I remember was my head hitting the blacktop! I did have on a helment but it was a last minute decision to wear on . been wearing one ever since. JIMMYZ
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talk abou hearing your head crack....I've hit 3 times on a bicycle...once from a blonde bitch hitting me and twice from ice.....wait 4 times...once from a front blowout on wet pavement

it aint a good sound and you will remember it....but everybody is different
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post May 11 2006, 08:41 PM
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when I was about 15, I was at my sister's house, and was going to take off on my brother's Triumph Bonneville. I was just gonna ride around the local backroads, and so I wasn't gonna use a helmet. Didn't figure I'd run into any law. She insisted I wear one, though, and wouldn't give me the key till I put one on.

Another long story short- I was on a road I didn't know very good, rounded a curve at a pretty good clip, and found it dead ended to another road. Luckily there was no car coming, and I damn near made it into the other road, but not quite. I dropped the bike, and somehow came off it, and bounced first thing on the top of my head. Good thing I had that helmet at that time. Besides all that, it was a steep ass ditch, as in over 20 ft off the other side of the road. The bike skidded to a stop just before it went over the edge.

As for dirt biking, I dropped and crashed countless times. Broke a collarbone when I slammed into a tree, required stitches in my foot while climbing hills barefooted, and other assorted injuries, but luckily, was never severely hurt.
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DH broke my right collarbone I am right handed .Its amazing what how hard things are to do without that right hand. Brush teeth is one I remember. JIMMYZ
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hell me too....jackin off comes to mind
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QUOTE(DavidHarleyson @ May 11 2006, 09:41 PM)
Another long story short- 
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I think you meant "to make a long story longer." :)
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QUOTE(karstman @ May 11 2006, 10:06 PM)
I think you meant "to make a long story longer."  :)
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damn. And I ain't even drinkin. That's probably my first mistake!
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I am DH and this whit ewine is good.....next the red

fuck....notice all my edits

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Helmets have always been manditory in MA, so I don't know how not to ware one... it's just a way of life here...

But, I do have a 3 Novelties, 1 DOT Half, and a DOT Full Face... and I where what ever I'm in the fucken mood for... Generaly I wear the Full when it's cold, or if I know I'm heading into rain... and the Half, for my weekend rides to the Cape... Otherwise the Novelties round town...

Right or wrong... sometimes they just feel right... and othertimes I really don't give a fuck...

(Wait a minute... fucken correction.... most times I really don't give a fuck?) (IMG:http://www.harleyshoptalk.net/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE(wholehog @ May 11 2006, 10:14 PM)
I am DH and this whit ewine is good.....next the red

fuck....notice all my edits
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ehehh. Ain't nothin wrong with that. You don't have to work tommorrow, which is probably a good thing.

I do have to get up tommorrow, and take care of some stuff, so I'm checkin out. Check y'all later.
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me too I gotta sack out....evrybody just be careful and if you cant then have fun anyway
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Always wear one, light half for the summer and a 3/4 for winter, considering one of those flip ups to have a full face for the real cold months.

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I only wear a helmet in the winter time for warmth, or when travelling out of state. I just dont like them. I have a novelty I used to wear when we had helmet laws and 2 dots. If they bring the helmet law back I will probably wear the DOTs, hell if I gotta wear it I may as well wear the legal one.
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I'm so conflicted when it comes to helmets...

I can't make up my mind which one to wear...

I've got one of each: Full, DOT half, and novelty

Full-in NY HD riders DO NOT under any circumstance wear a full face helmet...you could stopped, beaten and your bike will be taken from you until you take it off...lol, got it for inclement weather riding mainly and extreme cold stuff..under 30* F...(still haven't had the balls to wear it)

DOT Half-For long distances on big roads with heavy commercial traffic, or when I'm feeling like a "motorcycle enthusiast" instead of a "biker", makes me look like marvin the martian...but probably the safer then the novelty...usually ride alone & very conservative, shifting under 3000rpm, no aggressive moves...

novelty-when I'm feeling like billy badass biker, looks the best on me..no marvin the martian head...nothin' but attitude, small helmet dark glasses...don't mess with me...push the limits, go higher rpm's for shifting, rev the bike more, go faster...wear it on my club rides, with the "guys"..it's an image thing I suppose

It's real funny though...my riding styles change depending on which helemt I'm wearing..how fucked up is that?

I'm so conflicted...I've ridden helmetless too, CT, PA, NH, DE..but everytime I do, I feel guilty about the possibility of leaving my family with caring for a vegatable in case I bite the big one and crash...

But I suppose that could happen no matter which one I wear...

signed,
Conflicted helmet guy in NY

In my sport bike days, I always wore a full face helmet and thank God I did..all 3 of my crashes were slow speed crashes, but each time I bumped my noggen pretty good...
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Helmet law in California and Nevada, none in Arizona. Don't usually wear the lid when we are at the Arizona house, unless we are going across the river into Nevada.

No, it's not DOT
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They have a helmet law in Cali? Shit, when I lived there you werent even required to have eye protection. It was common to see a guy wearing shorts and no shirt, in flipflops, no eyewear or headgear splitting traffic smoking a joint, well I added the joint thing for effect but you get my drift. Hey , I think I was that guy once or twice.
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You just described me exactly before I went into the service. Was on a Triumph then, sandals, shorts, and a pair of cheap sun glasses.
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