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> F**kin Derby cover bolts, Again!
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post Feb 11 2016, 09:08 PM
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Stand by for a pissed off Rant!

Ok so I do a service on my bike today, changed the oil no problem, drain the primary and start to remove the derby cover using my brand new #27 torx and stripped all 5 bolts! It's like there made of plastic
Drill the first one out for the easy out I keep just for that purpose (been there done that) and I snap it off below the surface Damn!

I get out the dremal and cut a slot in it and insert my Kline screwdriver and try to turn it with a wrench and twisted the tip until it broke! Shit!
The bike was last serviced by CC HD the same peaple I hate, how fucking tight did they put them in?

So tomorrow I get to buy a assortment of dremal bits and a new easy out and grind the head off at least one then buy quality bolts to replace the absolute junk that came on the bike.

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post Feb 11 2016, 11:02 PM
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I HATE those damn things!!!!!!!!!!


I've converted them before but not on either RG. I always use channel locks on the torx to try and give me an advantage. And, YES, every HD dealer torques them to 200 ft lbs!!!!
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post Feb 12 2016, 05:35 AM
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I have used an impact tork bit for those and never had any problems.
I torque them to 80-90 inch pounds. 200 ft pounds is way too much
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post Feb 12 2016, 06:22 AM
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The dealer you hate. Did they red locktite them?
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post Feb 12 2016, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(Blackcloud @ Feb 12 2016, 05:22 AM) *
The dealer you hate. Did they red locktite them?



Red loctite crossed my mind Mark, although I have never had a issue with the service dept who knows. I had my full body weight plus pushing on a 12" crescent wrench when the screwdriver failed so they are either glued or beyond fuckin stupid tight.
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post Feb 12 2016, 09:16 AM
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You will be lucky to get them out if they used red Loctite.
Plan on buying another cover
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post Feb 12 2016, 10:13 AM
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Throw the WD 40 and PB Blaster away. Try some Kroil. Every few hours for a couple days. It's done some wondrous things for me in the past. Things I NEVER thought would come apart!


Or try them from the inside. I really don't know if they come through any distance at all. You know, Paul? I was thinking of slotting the end of the screw for a "minus" screw driver. IDK.


I yeah, I was kidding about the 200 pounds but I swear I don't know how they could get them that tight. I always change my own fluids but the cover's been off for other crap and they always seem to be stupid tight! NO reason for it.


Good Luck!
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post Feb 13 2016, 09:14 AM
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Fixed it, I was grinding until 1 am but it's done, no locktite just stupid tight and cheap ass bolt heads, I tried using a screw extractor but the bolts where too soft and would not hold it.
The new dermal tool kicked ass and grade 8 Allen heads installed, I'm not doing this again.
The weather is Beautiful Beautiful I'm heading out for a long day of riding!
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post Feb 13 2016, 05:30 PM
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post Feb 13 2016, 09:25 PM
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Good deal! Glad you got it licked.
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post Feb 13 2016, 11:28 PM
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Way back when we used an impact screwdriver to break loose the Phillips screws they used to use. Stick the driver head in the screw and give the body a WACK with
a hammer. Gave the screw a 5* turn. Still have mine
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