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dennyandnancy
post Jan 17 2017, 05:50 PM
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Just purchased a 2012 Dyna Super Glide Custom. When I first hit the start button for about the first revolution it turns over real hard. Sometimes I wonder if it's going to start but it always has. Took the battery to a auto parts store and they checked under a load. They said the battery was fine. I took all the cables loose on both ends and cleaned and lubed. None looked bad and it didn't help. Have started in neutral and the clutch pulled in. Bike moves freely, don't think the clutch discs are sticking. Anybody have any ideas?
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:01 PM
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If it always starts what are you worried about? Typical Twin Cam is hard to turn on compression stroke.
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post Jan 17 2017, 06:57 PM
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It's a good habit to start it in neutral with the clutch pulled in every time you start it. It'll be easier to start and not put a strain on your battery....

Nothing to worry about if it starts....

Unless you're describing a different problem....

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post Jan 17 2017, 07:36 PM
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Pretty common, IMHO.

Follow LoudNProud's advice.

My '11 Roadie does it even in Neutral. I don't pull the clutch in though. BUT, it didn't always do it!!

I don't know why some do it and some don't.
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post Jan 17 2017, 07:55 PM
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Might even make a sound like someone thumping the bottom of a bucket. If you catch it on the compression it might "kick back" and you'll have to try again. It happens.
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post Jan 17 2017, 08:37 PM
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Thanks for the replies, just didn't want to get out and it not start.
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post Jan 17 2017, 09:52 PM
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I think it's a halfway common thing.
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post Jan 18 2017, 09:50 AM
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My '11 Ultra didn't do it at all until about 3 years old. Replaced the battery and started like new again. My '03 Fatty always did it.
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post Jan 19 2017, 12:44 AM
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I added a second negative cable to the starter to help current flow.
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post Jan 19 2017, 07:07 PM
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Don't remember my Dyna days well, does your newer Dyna have auto compression releases like our 103 cid Trikes have. Her '13 did that. She said something to
the dealer at a service. He said he changed the compression release and her trike stopped the hesitation. My '15 does it occasionally, I don't like it either.

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post Jan 20 2017, 05:53 PM
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What I have read is the 103's have compression relief but my 96 don't. I hooked up my volt meter to it and read 12.8 v., turned the key on and read 12.05 v., hit the start button and just for a second it dropped to 6 v., running was 14.20 v. Would it tell me for sure if the battery was bad, if I hooked up car battery with jumper cables and it started fine, wouldn't that tell me the battery is junk?
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post Jan 20 2017, 06:02 PM
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Seahag, did adding the second negative cable to the starter help, and shouldn't that have been positive cable to the starter?
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post Jan 20 2017, 06:19 PM
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Of course the voltage will drop when you put a load on it. If it shows 12 volts unloaded and is charging at 14 volts then it is all good. You are stressing about nothing.
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post Jan 21 2017, 09:25 AM
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My 96s go "rur......rur......Broom". Sometimes rur.....rur.....pahroom. With like a one second delay between rurs. The rur is common in most. The pah is common on 96s but doesn't happen on all of them nor every time on those that do exhibit that behavior.
I'm not sure jumping from a car is a good idea. Not sure. I think the amps are way high for a bike.
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post Jan 21 2017, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(dennyandnancy @ Jan 20 2017, 04:53 PM) *
if I hooked up car battery with jumper cables and it started fine, wouldn't that tell me the battery is junk?


No. Odds are your car battery will have more CCAs and reserve than your bike battery. You said the auto parts dealer tested your battery under load and said it was fine. If you still have doubts, go buy a new battery. Your old one is 5 years old. Me, If I was going on a long trip and had my doubts. I'd replace it. Otherwise I'd ride it until I was sure it would fail. I have High-Compression heads on my bike. When starting, the first revolution always sounds like the battery is dead.

BTW....when the bike is hot and it sounds like a sewing machine that is going to blow up, when riding at highway speeds.....that's normal too.
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post Jan 21 2017, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(Blackcloud @ Jan 21 2017, 09:25 AM) *
My 96s go "rur......rur......Broom". Sometimes rur.....rur.....pahroom. With like a one second delay between rurs. The rur is common in most. The pah is common on 96s but doesn't happen on all of them nor every time on those that do exhibit that behavior.
I'm not sure jumping from a car is a good idea. Not sure. I think the amps are way high for a bike.


Really Mark? rur...rur...Broom? Rur...rur....pahroom? Not a very technical description of a motorbike starting up but I understood it right away..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)

Can you describe some more bike sounds for us? .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/whistling.gif) Please.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)

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post Jan 21 2017, 04:30 PM
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More sounds? Honk honk and potato potato.
You understood it. That's the point.
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post Jan 22 2017, 10:54 PM
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Blackcloud, gave me a laugh too, but I understood THANKS
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post Jan 23 2017, 02:56 PM
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Glad you understood it....

I didn't know what the hell noise that was... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hysterical.gif)
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Alright. Get it out of your systems.
Fuckers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/birds.gif)
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post Jan 23 2017, 06:34 PM
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NOT related...

During Viet Nam war... Full bird colenol calls our shop. Took care of comm devices and some krypto gear. Col. says he's got a gaggle of 26 F4s on the flight line ready to go and can't get the (required) "orders" into the right hands. He says it's making a "noise".

Sgt Ferris, ever the jokster asks the Col. "What kind of noise?" Col. says something I, obviously, can't hear. Ferris says, "Can you sound it out?"

Whereupon I even heard the Col. saying somebody get their ass over here!! Yeah, yours truly went over. Had a private meeting with the Col. but after he heard my voice he knew it wasn't me. He did say, "You don't want to tell me who that was do you?" I say, "No Sir, I really don't. Sorry we had a laugh at your expense. He didnt say another word!!

So keep sounding out these scooter noises cause I get to LMAO... and now you know it's not at you!!! HA!
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post Jan 23 2017, 09:58 PM
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Some bikes don't make noise sittin' in the garage, well, unless the Mailman sits on it and says vroom vroom.
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QUOTE(Bamsambo @ Jan 23 2017, 09:58 PM) *
Some bikes don't make noise sittin' in the garage, well, unless the Mailman sits on it and says vroom vroom.

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Fucking HDMark.
LMAO!

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[quote name='Ordy' date='Jan 23 2017, 10:06 PM' post='402524']
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Fucking HDMark.
LMAO!

Ride safe
At least his Uncle left him enough money to but it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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